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|Dispute= A flow chart and a causal diagram are the same thing.
|Statements= A flow chart and a causal diagram are the same thing.
|Outcome= Flow charts and causal diagrams are different things and used for different purposes.
|Resolution= Flow charts and causal diagrams are different things and used for different purposes.
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:{{comment|#1: |Is a flow chart "just a graphic" and a causal diagram fulfills all the constraints that the pyrkilo methods poses?|--[[User:Alexandra Kuhn|Alexandra Kuhn]] 18:06, 5 June 2007 (EEST)}}
:{{comment|1|Is a flow chart "just a graphic" and a causal diagram fulfills all the constraints that the pyrkilo methods poses?|--[[User:Alexandra Kuhn|Alexandra Kuhn]] 18:06, 5 June 2007 (EEST)}}
:{{attack|#2: |[[en:Flow chart|Flow chart]] describes the flow of molecules within and between compartments. It can also describe work flow such as the path of tasks computer program does when it is run (e.g. "Let C be A*B; if C is equal to 100 then goto line 55 else goto line 155." [[en:Influence diagram|Influence diagrams]] or causal diagrams describe influences (causal relations) between variables, and there is no need to be flow of molecules (e.g. a particle filter has an impact on the emissions, but the influence is not about molecule flows.) Influence diagrams are also called [[en:Bayesian network|Bayesian belief networks]]. |--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 07:06, 6 June 2007 (EEST)}}
:{{attack|2|[[en:Flow chart|Flow chart]] describes the flow of molecules within and between compartments. It can also describe work flow such as the path of tasks computer program does when it is run (e.g. "Let C be A*B; if C is equal to 100 then goto line 55 else goto line 155." [[en:Influence diagram|Influence diagrams]] or causal diagrams describe influences (causal relations) between variables, and there is no need to be flow of molecules (e.g. a particle filter has an impact on the emissions, but the influence is not about molecule flows.) Influence diagrams are also called [[en:Bayesian network|Bayesian belief networks]]. |--[[User:Jouni|Jouni]] 07:06, 6 June 2007 (EEST)}}
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moved from Heande -- Jouni 22:45, 24 January 2008 (EET)

What exactly is the difference between a flow chart and a causal diagram?

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Opening statement: A flow chart and a causal diagram are the same thing.

Closing statement: Flow charts and causal diagrams are different things and used for different purposes.

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Argumentation:
----1: . Is a flow chart "just a graphic" and a causal diagram fulfills all the constraints that the pyrkilo methods poses? --Alexandra Kuhn 18:06, 5 June 2007 (EEST) (type: truth; paradigms: science: comment)
⇤--2: . Flow chart describes the flow of molecules within and between compartments. It can also describe work flow such as the path of tasks computer program does when it is run (e.g. "Let C be A*B; if C is equal to 100 then goto line 55 else goto line 155." Influence diagrams or causal diagrams describe influences (causal relations) between variables, and there is no need to be flow of molecules (e.g. a particle filter has an impact on the emissions, but the influence is not about molecule flows.) Influence diagrams are also called Bayesian belief networks. --Jouni 07:06, 6 June 2007 (EEST) (type: truth; paradigms: science: attack)
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